Our series looking at the longing for the sacred in seemingly secular music continues. Anne Rawlins and Cristin Conley join the show to talk about the artists Julien Baker, Lucy Dacus, and Phoebe Bridgers, collectively known as the group boygenius.

Recap on A Secular Age concepts. Intro to boygenius. Julien Baker "Happy to Be Here." Mental health, addiction, and faith. Anne intro. Background on Lucy Dacus. “VBS.” Being a leader. Light and dark. Cristin intro. Background on Phoebe Bridgers. “Chinese Satellite.” I want to believe (in what?). Hope, death, and love. Pop Culture Consolations & Desolations. Altar Call & Credits. 

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